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still further. But for the Buddhists, training in virtue, discernment, and the ability not to be overcome by pleasure or pain could take the mind to a state where the results of past bad kamma would "be experienced in the here-and-now, and for the most part would appear only for a moment." In other words, in the Buddhist teaching, but not in the Jain, the state of the mind in the present plays a major role in how the effects of past kamma will be experienced. 5. This verse = Dhp 26. 6. This verse = Dhp 27. For a detailed discussion of "intimacy," see SN 22:3. 7. "This" apparently refers to the abundant bliss mentioned in the previous verse. 8. The verses in MN 86 end here. - --> - - - -