monk whose effluents were ended fabricate a meritorious or a demeritorious or an imperturbable fabrication?" "No, lord." "With the total non-existence of fabrications, from the cessation of fabrications, would consciousness be discernible [manifest]?" "No, lord." [And similarly down to:] "With the total non-existence of birth, from the cessation of birth, would aging-&-death be discernible?" "No, lord." "Very good, monks. Very good. Just so should you suppose it. Just so should you be convinced. Just so should you believe. Do not be doubtful; do not be uncertain. This, just this, is the end of suffering & stress." See also: MN 38; MN 140; SN 35:80; AN 6:43; Ud 8:1; Iti 44 - --> - - - -