To the Clothless Ascetic Acela Sutta (SN 12:17) · 莲华归心开放中文佛学资料库

- suttas - - evening talks - short morning talks - lectures - guided meditations - talk collections - other themes - chants - - - - à¹à¸à¸¢ - Franā§ais - Espaā±ol - - Portuguāªs - Ð ÑÑÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ - - - Ð£ÐºÑÐ°ÑÐ½ÑÑÐºÐ° Submit Search - Home - Suttas - SN - SN 12:17 To the Clothless Ascetic ## Browse Suttas Go to Saṃyutta Nikṅya index SN index ## To the Clothless Ascetic Acela Sutta Â (SNÂ 12:17) I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Rṅjagaha in the Bamboo Forest, the Squirrelsâ Sanctuary. Then early in the morning the Blessed One, having adjusted his lower robe and taking his bowl & outer robe, went into Rṅjagaha for alms. Kassapa the clothless1 ascetic saw him coming from afar. On seeing him, he went to him and, on arrival, exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly greetings & courtesies, he stood to one side. As he was standing there, he said to the Blessed One, "We would like to question Master Gotama about a certain point, if he would take the time to answer our question." "This is not the time for a question, Kassapa. We have entered among houses." A second time.â¦ A third time Kassapa the clothless ascetic said to him, "We would like to question Master Gotama about a certain point, if he would take the time to answer our question." "This is not the time for a question, Kassapa. We have entered among houses." When this was said, Kassapa the clothless ascetic said, "What we want to ask isnât much." "Then ask as you like." "Master Gotama, is pain self-made?" "Donât say that, Kassapa." "Then is it other-made?" "Donât say that, Kassapa." "Then is it both self-made and other-made?" "Donât say that, Kassapa." "Then is it the case that pain, without self-making or other-making, is spontaneously arisen?" "Donât say that, Kassapa." "Then is there no pain?" "Itâs not the case, Kassapa, that there is no pain. There is pain." "Then, in that case, does Master Gotama not know or see pain?" "Kassapa, itâs not the case that I donât know or see pain. I know pain. I see pain." "Now, Master Gotama, when asked, ), # Right single quote ('â', Is pain self-made?â you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Donât say that, Kassapa.â When asked, ), # Right single quote ('â', Then is it other-made?), # Right single quote ('â', you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Donât say that, Kassapa.â When asked, ), # Right single quote ('â', Then is it both self-made and other-made?â you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Donât say that, Kassapa.â When asked, ), # Right single quote ('â', Then is it the case that pain, being neither self-made nor other-made, arises spontaneously?â you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Donât say that, Kassapa.â When asked, ), # Right single quote ('â', Then is there no pain?â you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Itâs not the case, Kassapa, that there is no pain. There is pain.), # Right single quote ('â', When asked, ), # Right single quote ('â', Well, in that case, does Master Gotama not know or see pain?â you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Kassapa, itâs not the case that I donât know or see pain. I know pain. I see pain.â Then tell me about pain, lord Blessed One. Teach me about pain, lord Blessed One!" "Kassapa, the statement, ), # Right single quote ('â', With the one who acts being the same as the one who experiences, existing from the beginning, pain is self-madeâ: This circles around eternalism. And the statement, ), # Right single quote ('â', With the one who acts being one thing, and the one who experiences being another, existing as the one struck by the feeling, pain is other-madeâ: This circles around annihilationism.2 Avoiding these two extremes, the Tathṅgata teaches the Dhamma via the middle: From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving. From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging-&-death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering. "Now from the remainderless fading & cessation of that very ignorance comes the cessation of fabrications. From the cessation of fabrications comes the cessation of consciousness. From the cessation of consciousness comes the cessation of name-&-form. From the cessation of name-&-form comes the cessation of the six sense media. From the cessation of the six sense media comes the cessation of contact. From the cessation of contact comes the cessation of feeling. From the