To Koṭṭhita Koṭṭhita Sutta (AN 4:173) · 莲华归心开放中文佛学资料库

- suttas - - evening talks - short morning talks - lectures - guided meditations - talk collections - other themes - chants - - - - à¹à¸à¸¢ - Franā§ais - Espaā±ol - - Portuguāªs - Ð ÑÑÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ - - - Ð£ÐºÑÐ°ÑÐ½ÑÑÐºÐ° Submit Search - Home - Suttas - AN - AN 4:173 To Koṭṭhita ## Browse Suttas Go to Aṃguttara Nikṅya index AN index ## To Koṭṭhita Koṭṭhita SuttaÂ Â (ANÂ 4:173) Then Ven. Mahṅ Koṭṭhita went to Ven. Sṅriputta and, on arrival, exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly greetings & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to Ven. Sṅriputta, "With the remainderless fading & cessation of the six contact-media [vision, hearing, smell, taste, touch, & intellection], is it the case that there is anything else?" [Ven. Sṅriputta:] "Donât say that, my friend." [Ven. Mahṅ Koṭṭhita:] "With the remainderless fading & cessation of the six contact-media, is it the case that there is not anything else?" [Ven. Sṅriputta:] "Donât say that, my friend." [Ven. Mahṅ Koṭṭhita:] "â¦is it the case that there both is & is not anything else?" [Ven. Sṅriputta:] "Donât say that, my friend." [Ven. Mahṅ Koṭṭhita:] "â¦is it the case that there neither is nor is not anything else?" [Ven. Sṅriputta:] "Donât say that, my friend." [Ven. Mahṅ Koṭṭhita:] "Being asked if, with the remainderless fading & cessation of the six contact-media, there is anything else, you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Donât say that, my friend.â Being asked ifâ¦ there is not anything elseâ¦ there both is & is not anything elseâ¦ there neither is nor is not anything else, you say, ), # Right single quote ('â', Donât say that, my friend.â Now, how is the meaning of your words to be understood?" [Ven. Sṅriputta:] "The statement, ), # Right single quote ('â', With the remainderless fading & cessation of the six contact-media, is it the case that there is anything else?â objectifies the unobjectified.1 The statement, ), # Right single quote ('â', â¦ is it the case that there is not anything elseâ¦ is it the case that there both is & is not anything elseâ¦ is it the case that there neither is nor is not anything else?â objectifies the unobjectified. However far the six contact-media go, that is how far objectification goes. However far objectification goes, that is how far the six contact-media go. With the remainderless fading & cessation of the six contact-media, there comes to be the cessation of objectification, the stilling of objectification." Note 1. "Objectification" is a translation of papaā±ca. Although in some circles papaā±ca has come to mean a proliferation of thinking, in the Canon it refers not to the amount of thinking, but to a type of thinking marked by the classifications and perceptions it uses. As SnÂ 4:14 points out, the root of the classifications and perceptions of objectification is the thought, "I am the thinker." This thought forms the motivation for the questions that Ven. Mahṅ Koṭṭhita is presenting here: the sense of "I am the thinker" can cause either fear or desire for annihilation in the course of unbinding. Both concerns get in the way of the abandoning of clinging, which is essential for the attainment of unbinding, which is why the questions should not be asked. DNÂ 21 and MNÂ 18 discuss the relationship between objectification and conflict. SNÂ 43 lists non-objectification as one of many epithets for unbinding. See also: DNÂ 15; MNÂ 49; SNÂ 4:19; SNÂ 35:23; SNÂ 35:117; SNÂ 43; ANÂ 4:42; ANÂ 8:30 - --> - - - -